Cults and power and Jim Jones

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I can remember seeing the movie that was made about Jim Jones and being horrified and saddened, it affected me as a young child about how charismatic people with power can so easily manipulate those around them. It was a tragedy and horrific and to me it was just a movie. Since then, so many other cults have been created and continued on with people believing in the craziness of their charismatic leaders and in the end calling for some mass suicide that leaves the believers dead.

I was speaking to someone the other day and we got sidetracked into a discussion on faith. I have always been amazed by people and faith. The need to believe what cannot be seen or touched, to have the rituals and the sense that there is something unbelievable that will save them. I guess I wonder why people can’t have faith in themselves to save them. But they said it was Faith in the Truth, I asked them how they knew it was true. They replied back to me that ‘just because you don’t know the truth, doesn’t stop the truth from being’. I agreed completely with them. That is a very well known statement, but then he mentioned the famous math argument. That no matter where you go in the universe 2+2=4 and that IS a universal truth and to him ‘god’ was a universal truth and so he has faith in that. I told him that someone can prove to me that 2+2=4, but no one has yet proved to me there is a ‘god’ or maybe I should say that there is a ‘god’ who has human characteristics and requests us to worship him a certain way. I have no problems with believing but make sure you have your arguments right.

Power is an interesting concept and Cults are another one. People always equate Cults with evil things. However, there are many things that are Cults in this world and most of it has to do with powerful people swaying others to their way of thinking and creating a mass thought. Hitler/Nazi’s, suicide religions, Catholicism, the Government (choose one, any one, anywhere in the world), sometimes even corporations can become cult like in their devotion and bringing of people to them to all ‘believe’.

So, I have rambled and have many thoughts still running through my head on the subject, trying to sort themselves out. What is and is not. What is the root of it all? One could say it is all about Power and the need to use it and draw people to us or maybe it is that need to always be right and have people believe in us and tell us we are right?

This whole blog started with me just thinking about the fact that I saw the movie and until I read the below article that I didn’t realize the numbers involved (900) and the people outside of the cult who were killed.

Thank you for following my thoughts.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,452787,00.html

30 Years Later, Survivors Remember Jonestown Massacre

Sunday, November 16, 2008

By Tim Reiterman

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Dark clouds tumbled overhead on that afternoon 30 years ago, in the last hours of the congressman’s mission deep in the jungle of Guyana.

With a small entourage, Rep. Leo Ryan had come to investigate the remote agricultural settlement built by a California-based church. But while he was there, more than a dozen people had stepped forward: We want to return to the United States, they said fearfully.

Suddenly a powerful wind tore through the central pavilion, riffling pages of my notebook, and the skies dumped torrents that bowed plantain fronds. People scrambled for cover as I interviewed the founder of Peoples Temple.

“I feel sorry that we are being destroyed from within,” intoned the Rev. Jim Jones, stunned that members of his flock wanted to abandon the place he called the Promised Land.

That freakish storm and the mood seemed ominous — and not just to me. “I felt evil itself blow into Jonestown when that storm hit,” recalls Tim Carter, one of the few settlers to survive that day.

Within hours, Carter would see his wife and son die of cyanide poisoning, two of the more than 900 people Jones led in a murder and suicide ritual of epic proportions.

And I would be wounded when a team of temple assassins unleashed a fusillade that killed Ryan — the first congressman slain in the line of dutytreat to Jonestown for what would be his last stand.

Yulanda Williams was about 12 when she began attending temple services in San Francisco with her parents. Her father, lured by Jones’ reputation as a Christian prophet with healing powers, believed that the minister helped him recover from a heart attack.

In 1977, as news media were beginning to investigate disciplinary thrashings and other abuse in the temple, Jones summoned Williams and her husband to Guyana.

Upon arrival in Jonestown, the couple felt deceived. It was far from the paradise Jones described. People were packed into metal-roofed cabins, sleeping on bunks without mattresses and using outhouses with newsprint for toilet paper. There were armed guards, and Jones warned that deserters would encounter venomous snakes and hostile natives.

The preacher, who once charmed U.S. politicians and met with future first lady Rosalynn Carter, had turned into a pill-popping dictator who sadistically presided over harsh discipline. “I felt like I was in a concentration camp and he was Hitler,” Williams said.

Because her husband was an attorney whose skills could be better used elsewhere, they were permitted to leave after a few weeks. And months before the horrific end, Williams and her family cut ties with the temple.

Eventually, Williams joined the San Francisco Police Department. But she told no one about her temple involvement for a decade because she feared the loss of her job. When she finally confided to a deputy chief, “He said, ‘No way,’ because everybody had this stereotype” about the kinds of people who were members of Peoples Temple, she recalled.

In fact, these were mostly ordinary people who joined the temple because they wanted to help their fellow man and be part of something larger than themselves.

Williams thrived as a policewoman. The department needed officers to connect with gang members and other juveniles in trouble with the law. “I told my story to young people,” said Williams. “They were amazed because they never imagined anyone could beat these types of odds.”

———

On the morning of Nov. 18, Ryan’s party was about to tour the settlement, and investigate whether its inhabitants truly were free to go.

Leslie Wilson, wife of security chief Joe Wilson, took her 3-year-old son Jakari to the kitchen building where they met seven others who had endured enough of Jonestown’s Spartan life and Jones’ faked sieges and suicide rehearsals. The group told fellow settlers they were going on a picnic — but they just kept on moving through the jungle, with Jakari slung in a sheet on Wilson’s back.

“I was so scared I was shaking in my tennis shoes,” she recalled. “I was waiting for a gunshot and a bullet and me dropping.”

Concealed by thick undergrowth, the escapees passed so close to the Jonestown guard shack that they could hear voices. Trudging 35 miles along railroad tracks, they arrived sweaty and dirty that night in the town of Matthews Ridge.

Wilson, who lost her mother, brother, sister and husband that Saturday, would be consumed with survivor’s guilt.

On Mother’s Day, two years after Jonestown, she thought about what it must have been like for her mother to see two of her children die. She put a pistol to her head.

She did not shoot. She had to live, she decided, for the sake of her son.

After a bout with drug abuse, she twice married and bore two more children.

Now divorced, she goes by her married name Leslie Cathey and works in the health care industry. She finally has found forgiveness, even for Jones, but she cannot forget. “I pray my family did not think I left them,” she said. “Not a day goes by that I don’t think about it.”

———

While a temple dump truck ferried the Ryan party and 15 grim-faced defectors toward the Port Kaituma airstrip six miles away, we were unaware that anyone had escaped. But at Jonestown’s front gate, Joe Wilson inspected the crowded truck bed, looking for his wife and toddler.

We made it safely to the dirt strip. But then, a tractor with a trailer full of temple gunmen — Wilson among them — soon bore down on us. Gunfire exploded as we boarded two small planes.

Ryan died. So did defector Patricia Parks, NBC newsmen Don Harris and Bob Brown, and photographer Greg Robinson, my colleague at the San Francisco Examiner.

I was shot in the left forearm and wrist. That night those of us who were ambulatory took turns tending to the most severely wounded in a tent by the airstrip: The NBC soundman. A temple defector who someday would become a policeman. A concerned relative whose sister was a Jones mistress. And Ryan aide Jackie Speier, who would go on to a long career as a California lawmaker before being elected to his seat in Congress this year.

Some survivors had fled into the jungle but most took refuge in a cramped rum shop, fearful the assassins would return. “You’re gonna see the worst carnage of your life at Jonestown,” predicted one of the defectors the next morning. “It’s called ‘revolutionary suicide.”‘

———

By the time the airstrip gunmen he went to live with his father in Boise, Idaho. Walking on the street, he felt that others looked at him with loathing and fear. Friends from his youth on the San Francisco Peninsula, where he had introduced some people to the temple, called him a murderer or refused to speak with him.

Though he listed Peoples Temple on his resume, Carter landed a job at a travel agency and worked in the industry for many years. He has had two long-term relationships and is the father of three children. He collects disability payments for post-traumatic stress from Vietnam, but he reflects on the nightmare of Jonestown each day.

“The more time that goes on, the better it is,” he said. “I can think about Gloria and Malcolm without feeling that knife in my chest.”

———

Late on the afternoon of Nov. 18, a coded radio message from Jones was transmitted to the temple’s house in Georgetown: Some Jonestown residents had betrayed them, and he wanted the faithful to kill temple enemies. Then members in the Guyanese capital and San Francisco — a couple of hundred people — should commit suicide.

Bay Area businessman Sherwin Harris had sat down for supper at the house with his teenage daughter Liane and his ex-wife Sharon Amos’ two other children.

Oblivious to Jones’ dire orders, Harris felt hopeful and upbeat. He had traveled to Guyana with the Ryan party to check on his daughter’s welfare and, after several days of trying, was finally able to see her in person.

Harris and his daughter discussed plans to spend the next day together, touring Georgetown.

Later, Harris took a cab back to his hotel, his spirits lifted by the visit. But that night police informed him that his daughter, Amos and her two other children were dead.

“It felt like the swing of a sledge hammer full on to my chest,” he said. “How could this be? I just left her.”

eying the humanity of temple members she feels were dehumanized by photos of their bodies and dismissed as robotic cultists.

Moore thinks her sisters, socially conscious daughters of a minister, were true temple believers to the end. Still, she cannot fathom how they could have joined in planning murders and suicides.

“Jones did not buy the poison and mix it,” she said. “Others tested it on pigs. Others, including my sisters, wrote letters about how to kill people. … What is baffling is why people would participate in something so inhumane.”

———

Thirty years later, dozens of surviving members come together for private reunions because they still value their friendship, the temple’s sense of community and their utopian dream of a world free of racism and injustice.

“I go because I feel so strongly about the need for and power of forgiveness and understanding,” said Stephan Jones, the minister’s son. He was 19, and in Georgetown with other basketball team members on the temple’s last day. “I’ve come to believe a group of people can see the same thing and each come away with a completely different perspective and all be right in the moment,” he said. “We had ideas of a greater mission, and now we have found a way to be together that is harmonious and healing and are better able to make a difference in the world.”

Today, he is the father of three daughters and is the vice president of a small Bay Area office installation and services company.

In Jonestown’s aftermath, Stephan hated his father. But he has come to recognize that the capacity for good and evil, and mental sickness, coexisted in Jones.

“We don’t want to face our own responsibility or part in what happened and feel ashamed for being duped or manipulated,” he said. “We look for someone else to blame. I realized over time that there was a great need to forgive him, then I could forgive myself.”

The unidentifiable or unclaimed bodies of more than 400 of Jonestown’s dead, most of them children, are interred in a mass grave at an Oakland Cemetery overlooking San Francisco Bay. Each year a memorial service is conducted on Nov. 18.

Eugene Smith, who lost his wife, their infant son and his mother, went to the grave site years ago but has not returned. Fate had put him in Georgetown the day they perished, but he likes to think he would have resisted the madness in Jonestown, as he believes his wife did.

Now working as a research analyst for California’s transportation department, Smith has neither remarried nor fathered more children.

“None of us are survivors; we just got away,” he said. “For all of us who were not in Jonestown, part of us died there.”

EDITOR’S NOTE — Tim Reiterman, San Francisco news editor for The Associated Press, covered Jonestown for the San Francisco Examiner. He is the author with the late John Jacobs of “Raven: The Untold Story of the Rev. Jim Jones and His People,” published by Tarcher/Penguin.

Posted on November 17th 2008 in MsTiara's Thoughts

Not Yet

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02-12-06

“Not Yet,” she said. Her voice was measured and calm, calmer than she’d ever thought she’d feel when this time arrived. “Give me a little longer. Just long enough to know who I am.”

But Death had not come to bargain that night and took her away.

The Words That Remain – Charles de Lint

Sometimes you have to visit the past to heal and to face the future. But, don’t spend too long in the past. For when you do, you forget to live in the present and everything that occurred between then and today becomes no more. – TDS

The time was so long ago, over 20 years ago now but I can remember the feelings and emotions as if they were yesterday. They bubble up inside me, they take my breath away the leave me empty, dark and lonely. Even today I wonder how a child of the light can so easily become one with the darkness. Is it really two sides of one coin? Does everyone have the ability to find overwhelming darkness the same way one can also find overwhelming light? And if we have the choice between the two, why do some people decide to live in the dark?

The story isn’t about what occurred to lead me up to the point or what followed that brought me here today. The story is about a moment in time, a breath that was taken, something that was so intense that it forever becomes one of the snapshots that you will have to present along with the others that will be used to define your life before you are allowed to leave this world and move onto your next.

The day… I think you are supposed to describe the day when you tell the story. Was it summer, spring, winter or fall? Was the sun shining so bright that you were blinded or was the rain falling and the world was covered in grey? But, I guess that is the thing about the darkness. You can’t see or feel, you have no senses all you are is dark. There was no past or present there is no markers in your life that you can use to point to for you are too blinded to see. That is the moment which I remember. That moment, that wasn’t really a moment I guess since there were no markers of time around it to help you distinguish it.

It was the moment of my death. My time to die I guess. Some would say it was by my choice others would say it was by the world around me’s choice. Maybe it was just marked on the string of life as the moment which I became no more. But, there I was making the choice, taking control. Darkness so black, breath so labored, and dreams no more. During one breath and no more there was light so golden I felt as if I was giddy, drunk on how it made me feel as it poured through every essence of my being. I could see so clearly everything around me. I was no longer in my room but instead in a world of white but touched by the gold of life. For that unbelievable gold light from that moment on could be the only thing I could call life.

I stood before a man, a man that wore a face which so many would recognize. But, I knew that even though the image was a man and the image was universal that it meant nothing except for something that I could relate too using imagery that made sense to me in this lifetime. A hand was held out too me. A single hand…

An offer was made, so very simple, so very pure. Take the hand and I would be one with the energy and the light or I could stay in the world I had left behind and learn the lessons I came to learn to live life. Such a simple offer and yet such a very hard choice for to take the hand was the easy route for death is such an easier path than deciding to live. But, what would life have to offer me?

I made a deal, a wonderful deal and I chose to live… So many years later so many experiences and snapshots in my life’s book and yet still I wonder about the deal I made. Did I fulfill my part of it and when will the marker be called in again?

I feel like I have fulfilled a lot of my destiny but in fulfilling it did I forget about the experience of life itself? Is this world a place to learn or is it a place to experience or maybe it really is about playing the markers of debts owed and accumulated.

So many elements in my life in the last year come down to the synchronicity of the universe moving around me and pointing me in different directions. I am becoming more but yet I still feel lost for even though I know the feel and taste of the light it only left me wanting more of it rather than being satisfied that at least I experienced it in a moment of time.

I have always equated falling in love with what that light felt like. That joy and completion that final mending of a soul tore into two, but lately I have started to wonder what love really feels like and how many people know how to experience it. I hear the words thrown around and bounced back and forth. But, I don’t know anyone that can give selflessly of themselves to another being. Maybe if everyone in the world could just glimpse that golden light and bathe themselves in it for just a second then they could learn and become so much more than just people living here trying to get by day by day, year by year…

Death came by and called about 25 years ago now and yet still I look around and ask for more time to experience life, love and the time to learn who I am a bit better.

Posted on November 10th 2008 in MsTiara's Thoughts

Dragon and Kitten - The House

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Dragon and Kitten slowly fly into the yard of the big house on the hill. The sky is pitch black and any light is hidden behind the thick clouds that cover everything in a layer of darkness. The trees are empty of leaves, showing only sharp edges in the inky darkness.

They are both silent as they stare up at the old house that used to be filled with light and warmth.

“Why did you want to come here Kitten?” Dragon asks in a whisper. “It is so cold and empty.”

Kitten’s voice is eerily empty sounding as it comes through the darkness, “once upon a time, I was very happy here. I remember how much joy I felt as I would stand here looking up at the house shimmering in the sun. It always seemed like the house as laughing and was sharing the humour with me. But, now it seems empty. No sadness, no anger, just empty.

“What happened to it?” he wondered as he noticed parts of it were blackened and crumbling. He felt a shiver run up and down his spine as he looked at the empty husk of a building.

“The soul of the house left it. Over time, the people who used to live here changed. Where once they were filled with joy and caring for everything around them, after time they took it all for granted. They started to become careless, do hurtful things.” As she said this she looked at a stump in the ground in front of the bay windows. A tear slipped from her eyes as she remembered the young boy who lived in the house playing with fire, burning ants who were playing in the roots of the tree. He ended up setting fire to the leaves on the ground and burning the once magnificent tree down. When he was asked why, he said that he was bored and it made him happy. His parents nodded their heads and said it was okay, the tree wasn’t that important anyway.

Dragon counted the rings on the tree as he stood there and cried for the beautiful tree, “how old was it?”

“Over 500 years, it had stood there.” Kitten walked up the steps of the house and stood on the once amazing porch, remembering how it had once circled the house and had a swing on it where she would nap and dream. Now, part of it was rotted through and the swing was just a pile of sticks.

She moved to the doorway where a hand carved door once stood, it was magnificent back then, carved with celtic signs telling a story in pictures of Dragons and adventures, but there was nothing left of it but a rusted door knob, lying on the ground in a pile of dust.

Dragon followed her silently as she stepped inside. To the right was the entrance to the once formal ballroom where music and laughter was heard as they had danced till dawn. You could almost hear an echo of cannon fire in the air as memories of playing pirates ran through her mind. All that could be seen now though was a pile of rubble covered in mold slowly creeping up it and eating away the stone.

To the left was the library, shelves and shelves of books with the sounds of whispers as thoughts were shared. But the shelves were now empty and the wall to the outside was gone. What was once a warm room was now cold and empty. Kitten had a crystal tear on her cheek as she silently mourned.

Dragon shivered in the cold and emptiness. “Why are we here Kitten?”

“I have so many good memories of this place. It was my friend. I guess…” She stopped for a second as she felt the grief overwhelm her. Dragon reached out with his tail and wrapped it around her paw and was just there for her. “I guess, I was wondering if it was still here, if there was a part of its soul hanging around just waiting for a friend.”

“And?” Dragon asked, not sure what the question really should be.

“And, it is empty. No soul left, not even any ghosts. There is nothing.” Kitten sounded lost as she said it.

“So, what finally caused it all to die? A fire? A Flood?” Dragon wondered.

“No, that would have been easier to handle. You would have something to point at. It would be a final death.” She sighed, “But none of that caused it, it was finally little tiny moments, the lack of care, inconsideration and an emptiness of the soul that slowly caused the decay till one morning you woke up and this is all that stood, nothing.” She was quiet after that, not moving and not saying anything more.

Finally, Dragon picked her up and hugged her before putting her on his back. He turned and walked out of the house and flew away.

Kitten never looked back and didn’t even say goodbye. There was nothing left to say goodbye to.

Posted on November 10th 2008 in Dragon and Kitten Adventures

The Graveyard Book - Neil Gaiman

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I have been a fan of Neil Gaiman ever since a friend of mine recommended the Sandman series to me. I was a bit skeptical since I wasn’t too sure about a ‘graphic novel’ having enough sophistication to keep me interested. I found myself humbled as I sat pouring through the 10 different volumes trying to comprehend some of the most amazing, intelligent writing that I had read in… Well, I am not sure when the last time I HAD read writing that was filled with that much detail, new theories and the weaving of mythology from all around the world. From that point forward I became a serious Neil Gaiman fan, reading everything I could get my hands on, from the brilliance of Good Omens to American Gods, with side notes into Stardust and Mirror Mask. Even though I had enjoyed his works, nothing to me came close to touching the brilliance of Sandman.

That was until, I read the Graveyard Book.

The Graveyard Book is based upon the concept of The Jungle Book and yet other than the same theory the two are very different. It is about a boy who was raised by ghosts in a graveyard. We meet him when he was but an infant being saved from the person who murdered his family and we leave him as he turns 18. Along the way we watch him grow to be an adult and grow as a human being and we find as we read his story that we ALSO grow as human beings.

I am an avid reader of Neil Gaiman’s blog and followed along as he wrote the story and we got glimpses of what it takes to write a novel from the author’s perspective. I remember clearly when he wrote Chapter 5 and mentioned that he didn’t know how it ended. This chapter ended up being my favorite chapter in the entire book.

Take the time, pick up the book (which is in the Juvenile section for some strange reason) and enjoy a new perspective on the world.

Posted on November 10th 2008 in MsTiara's Thoughts, Neil Gaiman

Jim Henson Quotes and thoughts

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As children, we all live in a world of imagination, of fantasy, and for some of us that world of make believe continues into adult hood. Certainly I’ve lived my whole life through my imagination. But the world of imagination is there for all of us in a sense of play, of pretending, of wonder. It’s there with us as we live.

Jim Henson

There are no rules. And those are the rules.

Cantus Fraggle

I guess I was wrong when I said I never promised anyone. I promised me.

Kermit

Posted on November 10th 2008 in Quotes

Jonathan Carroll - Quote

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Joy, real joy, comes so rarely in life that we mourn the death of it a long time.

Jonathan Carroll

The Ghost in Love

Posted on November 10th 2008 in Jonathan Carroll
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